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I wouldn't delete an article for non-notabilty of its subject — but non-existence is another matter, especially when the band's existence is attributed to made-up people, etc. (the tone of the article didn't help, it's true). If there's any information that could be genuinely useful, can it be added to the Prolapse (band) article? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:56, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
That is funny! Moncrief 20:22, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
I don't doubt that some Leicester accents have [ɒ] (the vowel of Received Pronunciation cot) at the end of the name of the city (and in other similar words); indeed I've heard it myself. But I've never found a source for this information, and to comply with WP:NOR and WP:V we need one if it's to be included. Do you have a reference for this, and if so could you add details to the article?
Also, we should use IPA for pronunciation. Things like "Leicestoh" may be misunderstood, for various reasons; for one "oh" is likely to suggest the vowel of coat). The IPA in this case would, I think, be [ˈlɛstɒ].
--JHJ 14:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've had a bit of a look, but without much luck. Hughes and Trudgill, English Accents and Dialects, has a section on Leicester (although their example speaker is actually from Ashby de la Zouch) and doesn't mention it. There's a BBC Voices page here which mentions the vowel sound in border as a distinctive Leicester feature, but doesn't say what it is (and I think that listening to the recording and transcribing the vowel would count as original research). I'll either edit it along those lines, or leave it in with a  template.--JHJ 16:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Manchester City are
See English plural#Discretionary_plurals. In British English, proper nouns that describe a collective entity are often treated as plurals, especially in the case of sports teams e.g. England are playing France, Liverpool have some great defenders. MCFC is an English football club, therefore Wikipedia uses the British English style for their article. It might appear a bit awkward to you, but it's standard usage on the eastern side of the Atlantic. Demiurge 09:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I live on the eastern side of the atlantic. The discretionary plural is awkward here because of the singular nature of the object of the verb is/are, that is a club. Britain are an Island makes no sense while Britain are at war with France does.--Mongreilf 14:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I see you have found where the consensus building ran into a brick wall, so as to speak. I've looked through all PGUK's edits, and, as far as I can see, she was a model wikipedian, working respectfully and co-operatively throughout with other editors (including admins) and being hugely encouraged by them, until there was a fevered debate on AN/I, which she wasn't even informed about at first, till I discovered it and told her. It is hardly surprising, having been the subject of rampant speculation, that she opted out. It does not speak well of the project, unfortunately. Tyrenius 15:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- I understand wikipedia is not a democracy, it's not, not really, but i think a lot of unpaid work is being done under the illusion that it is. The PGUK thing has made me realised that consensus is little more than a mechanism for writing wikipedia, rather than a central philosophy.
- I'm also trying very hard not to go into the reasons behind the unusual responses to pguk (unusual even if she had been the worst anyone said of her, ie troll/vandal/sockpuppet) and stay in policy and reasonable, but sex is probably at the heart of this.--Mongreilf 15:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I started a written analysis, but unfortunately pressed the wrong button and lost it, so I'll have to start again. It is unfortunate that some major mis-perceptions occurred and did not get corrected. The arguments on both sides omitted a proper study of her history on the project. Tyrenius 06:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
Mongreilf: I must tell you that I find this comment of yours to be an offensive personal attack (on a few levels) and would like to ask you to please remove it. There is no call for such conduct towards me, especially given the civil conversation I thought we were having. Please remove that comment. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- wasn't directed particularly at you, though i guess by inclusion it was. It's gone. I should have made the point better which is that liberals need to stay liberal in the face of difficulties--Mongreilf 16:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Copied from User talk:RyanFreisling:
- I assumed it was a generalisation rather than a personal attack, and would have been happy with a statement to confirm that. However, I don't think it's particularly helpful anyway, and, per conversation above, I have deleted it. Tyrenius 03:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- Tyrenius 06:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Emperor Penguin vandal.
Forget trying to reason with Ed. I was permanently blocked for correcting spelling on an article he didn't like. Once you have the scarlet L, you're dead to him.Czolgolz (talk) 18:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, but you are a liberal, so surely he was right? --Mongreilf (talk) 18:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- I have a reflex minor spell/typo edit correcting habit that is entirely the consequence of however many years on wikis. It's almost like a nervous tic. ;)--Mongreilf (talk) 22:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
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Don't bother, "Lord Sesshomaru" is an obnoxious, authoritarian prick with an obsessive-compulsive disorder which will make trying to alter any article he's involved in the Wikipedia equivalent of slamming your dick repeatedly in a car door. Take my advice and save yourself the aggravation. Let him have his article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SmashTheState (talk • contribs) 22:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Not patronising the oldies
Sorry about yesterday's comment. I was very tired and ratty, and I ended up snapping at people all over the place. I should really have turned the computer off. Very sorry :( Totnesmartin (talk) 09:30, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
A centralised discussion which may interest you
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You wrote something on talk:bentonite page about medicinal uses of bentonite. I agree with you that this is an important subject. Perhaps you'll be interested in the recent discussion there. I'm planning to add some more material about the medicinal uses of bentonite soon.
A deletion review discussion you may wish to contribute to.
Hi. I've listed two deleted articles at Wikipedia:Deletion_review, following the discussion on "lists of unusual things" which took place earlier in the year. As a contributor to that discussion, you might be interested in expressing an opinion on whether the two deleted articles should be restored. SP-KP (talk) 15:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up on Conservation International and greenwashing its wikipedia page. I've been meaning to update the page with articles and references to their greenwashing, but haven't found time. Would appreciate any and all help to do that. See e.g., Conservation International Duped By Militant Greenwash Pitch The Wrong Kind of Green Allthingstoallpeople (talk) 16:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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